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in libya. this is a picture of the plane that brought the bodies back to the united states. back to their families. both the president and secretary of state will speak at the ceremonies and family members will be present. u.s. ambassadors chris stevens, foreign service information management officer sean smith. and former navy seal tyrone jones and glen doerty were providing security for ambassador smith were all killed in tuesday's attack in benghazi, libya. meantime angry protests spread today throughout the muslim world including jerusalem and the west bank along gaza. u.n. peacekeepers were also attacked by protesters. no casualties reported. in tunisia protesters stormed the u.s. embassy setting fires and battling with tunisian security forces. two people were killed. another 29 injured. in all protests broke out today in at least 17 nations from north africa across the middle east to indonesia. all the demonstrators voicing outrage against that film made in the united states that ridicules the prophet mohammed. nbc's jim maceda is in that country. we hope to have him join
of the united states and i think he really did make it worse by sitting down with "the view." i love "the view," i love the show, they're all friends. i'm a big fan. but in was not the moment to sit down with "the view." that's done by mitt romney, by barack obama, by everyone else. but not this day and at this time. >> jamie rubin, there is a schedule. obviously that the campaign feels it wants to keep. they have a lot of events coming up just today. joe scarborough said this morning so meet with folks for 15 minutes. to something. what would you say about this? >> well, i come from the foreign policy side of the house and worked at the state department and the president's schedule would come up in meetings with the white house. and there's always this tension between the election calculations, the political calculations, and those in the foreign policy professionals. you know, from the standpoint of a professional, obviously you'd like to see the president engage with these crucial countries, not just our friend israel, but a lot of friends that we have in the world or as andrea put it, coun
of the united states, giving his first extended response to questions about yesterday's events in benghazi, libya and in cairo, egypt. >> mr. president, for the first time since 1979, a sitting ambassador, christopher stevens, plus three other americans were killed in the line of duty. we send more than a billion dollars a year to egypt, tens of millions to libya after its liberation. is it time to reconsider foreign aid to countries where many of the people don't want us around? >> well, look, the united states doesn't have an option of withdrawing from the world, and we're the one indispensable nation. countries all around the world look to us for leadership, even countries where sometimes you experience protests. so it's important for us to stay engaged, but, obviously, what happened last night was heartbreaking. and libya in particular is a government that is very friendly towards us. the vast majority of libyans welcomed the united states' involvement. they understand that it's because of us that they got rid of a dictator who would crush their spirits for 40 years. many libyans came
to bless the united states of america. thank you. >> a somber u.s. secretary of state, hillary clinton, talking about the attack that killed four americans in benghazi, libya, including u.s. ambassador, chris stevens with a moving tribute to him and the others. she said this is an attack that should attack the conscience of people of all faiths around the world. we should tell you and we can take a live look at the white house right now. we are also waiting for a statement from president obama about the death of ambassador chris stevens in addition we are also going to be hearing from mitt romney a little later. let's go to our white house correspondent, chuck todd. >> i think we will hear similar words. but it's important that you did hear from secretary clinton first, and let me tell you why. thesediplomats. there are friends and donors in the safe countries in the safe allies, and then people like chris stevens who work under any administration, democrat or republican, and this was almost an attempt bisect clinton as a morale boost to the other career diplomats that are working in c
. >> the united states condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. since our founding, the united states has been a nation that respects all faiths. we reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. but there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. none. >> not content to sit on the sidelines at a critical moment in his presidential campaign, governor mitt romney plunged himself into the middle of this developing crisis, sharply criticizing the president by a written statement last night and doubling down on that criticism this morning. >> when our grounds are being attacked and being breached, that the first response of the united states must be outrage at the breach of the sovereignty of our nation. and apology for america's values is never the right course. the president and his administration have done something which is inconsistent with the principles of america. >> team romney has thus far focused its misleading attacks on a statement made by the u.s. embassy in cairo before any attacks began. it was a preemptive stat
, the first lady of the united states reminds us she can duggy better than laura bush ever did. that clip, later in the show. live at 5:30 a.m., you are at 30 rock. violent protest against the united states. at the u.s. kons late in benghazi, at least one american staff member was killed after they stormed the compound and burned it down. looking at the scene, you can hear gunshots going off. the attackers were armed with automatic rifles and grenades. libyan forces stationed there were said to have done little to stop the violence. in egypt, protesters scaled walls destroying the american flag, ripping it to shreds and replacing it with a black, islamic banner. the diplomatic staff had been evacua evacuated. both incidents in reaction to a little known akture movie produced in the u.s. po ridicule the profit mo hammed. the same guy that triggered deadly riots in afghanistan by threatening to burn the koran. the american embassy prepared a statement reading the united states embassy condemns the efforts of misguided individuals to hurt the feelings of muslims. respect for religious belief
>> today we mourn for more americans that represent the best of the united states of america. we will not waiver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act and make no mistake, justice will be done. >> this is on the heels of romney's slamming the president's response which became a fierce back and forth between the two campaigns. and mitt romney appeared in florida, launching a preemptive attack on the obama administration. >> the first response of the united states must be outrage of the breach of the sovereignty of our nation. an apology for american values is never the right course. as i watched over the passed 3 1/2 years, the president has had some successes and failures, and it's a hit or miss approach, but not based upon sound foreign policy. >> here is the statement released just before midnight that kicked off the campaign bickering. romney saying it's disgraceful that obama's administration's first response was not to condemn the attack but to sympathize with those that waged attacks. >> hillary clinton expressing our profound sadness over the
the lives of four americans including ambassador chris stevens. while the united states rejects efforts to deny great the religious rebeliefs of other, we must oppose kind of senseless violence that took the lives of these public ser vabts. according to the white house, the president was informed by national security adviser yesterday afternoon as he started his weekly meeting with secretary of defense and chairman of the joint chiefs. then president obama was notified last night that ambassador stevens was unaccounted for and then this morning he was notified about his death. secretary of state hillary clinton also condemned the attacks expressing, quote, proceed noubd sadness and adding all the americans weless in yesterday's attacks made the ultimate sacrifice. we condemn in vicious and violent attack that took their lives which they had committed to helping the libyan people reach for a better future. angry protesters also stormed the u.s. embassy in cairo scaling the wall, pulling down an american flag. all of this and outrage over an amateur video that denounces islam that by an a
. the embassy of the united states of cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided vinls to hurt the rely jougs feelings of muslims as we condemn efforts to hurt all believers. before the attacks had begun and american fatalities. it seems to me like a reasonable statement of people trying to keep the peace and prevent attack on the embassy. do you think there was anything out of line about this statement or do you think this was a reasonable thing for an embassy in cairo to be doing? >> this was an absolutely reasonable thing for the embassy in cairo to be doing. politics in the united states notwithstanding. i would have issued or had authorized my public affairs staff to issue a similar statement for what essentially was a demonstration and try to calm things without knowledge, of course, how this violence was going to break out next door in libya. listen, i can't put myself in the shoes of the ambassador of egypt. i don't know what exactly she knew or didn't know at the time when the statement was issued. the fact of the matter is there is obviously question over whether it was cleare
the long-term. despite the bumpy path and the disturbing images, it's in the united states fundamental interest that people have the ability to choose their own governments, that the governments be democratic and free. that's in our long-term best interest. we need to reinforce that. >> we are in the middle of a heated presidential campaign. there are different foreign policy visions. that's why we wanted to dedicate the hour today to understand these different views. mitt romney spoke out this week, criticizing the administration, talking about whether the united states was apologizing for some of the initial response to this. these were his comments this week. >> the administration was wrong to stand by a statement sympathizing with those who had breached our embassy in egypt instead of condemning their actions. i think it's a terrible course for america to stand in apology for our values. >> our embassies did not stand up for free speech in this initial response to this violence. and the republican charge is that it's weakness on the part of this administration that invites this kin
, criticizing the administration, talking about whether the united states was apologizing for some of the initial response to this. these were his comments this week. >> the administration was wrong to stand by a statement sympathizing with those who had breached our embassy in egypt instead of condemning their actions. i think it's a terrible course for america to stand in apology for our values. >> our embassies did not stand up for free speech in this initial response to this violence. and the republican charge is that it's weakness on the part of this administration that invites this kind of chaos that the administration has not been tough enough on radical extremists that are beginning to take root in these countries. how do you respond to that? >> first of all, i think the american people and certainly our diplomats and development experts putting their lives on the line every day around the world expect from our leadership unity in times of challenge. and strong, steady, steadfast leadership of the sort that president obama has been providing. with respect to this, i think,
are reaction to a little-known amateur movie produced in the united states which ridiculed the prophet mohammed. it gained attention because an obscure florida pastor began promoting it, the same man who triggered deadly riots in afghanistan when he threatened to burn the koran. we want to go straight to cairo where we find nbc chief foreign correspondent, richard engel. richard, fill us in a little more this morning. >> reporter: good morning. a libyan source has told nbc news that the u.s. ambassador who was visiting the consulate was killed along with three others. not sure of the nationality of those three others. the u.s. state department has not confirmed this, but this has been told to us by a senior security source in libya. we've been also told that the libyan prime minister and the libyan president will both be speaking today about this subject, offering their condolences to the united states and to the family of the fallen ambassador. and this is according to the report. we were told that when gunmen and a mob stormed the consulate building, they first attacked it with rpgs, then the
. >> foreign policy is back in the headlines. >> violent protests against the united states. >> four americans including our ambassador to libya have been killed. >> this morning romney used the trajty to criticize the agenda. >> this is no time for politics. >> did the romney campaign jump the gun last night. >> it's disgraceful. >> it's disgraceful that the obama administration first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks. >> justice will be done. >> team romney has -- >> we shouldn't be on an apology tour. >> the original statements by the cairo embassy were long before. >> six hours before these protests even started. >> it suggests a level of desperation. >> the desperate reach by mitt romney. >> that makes him look a little bit out of touch. >> contracts and tone deaf. >> how did mitt romney get into this mess? >> he needs to be severely aggressive. >> the first response to the united states must be outrage. >> be very aggressive. >> well he aggressively shot himself in the foot. >> do not seem crass. >> he has a
. the following month the united states announced that u.s. drone strike had killed a libyan who was the second ranking guy in al qaeda central. a guy who went by the moniker al libi which means the libyan. the same group in benghazi responded immediately within 24 hours. they launched another attack that they filmed al qaeda-style, and they ultimately claimed credit for it. this time their target was the u.s. consulate in benghazi, the same u.s. consulate where christopher stevens was killed two nights ago. they hit the consulate with an ied, turned the attack into an al qaeda-style video type of propaganda. the same group hit a british envoy in benghazi with a car bomb. it had the hallmarks of al qaeda inspiration or al qaeda training. they filmed the incident, dropped leaflets. they tried to take as much credit as possible. then on the morning of september 11th, this week, al qaeda central put out a video calling for attacks to avenge that same killing of al libi the group in benghazi had avenged before when it was first announced he was killed. by that night, the night of september 11th thi
carefully. >> would you consider the current egyptian regime an ally of the united states? >> i don't think that we would consider them an ally, but we don't consider them an enemy. they are a new government that is trying to find its way. they were democratically elected. i think that we will have to see how they respond to this incident, how they respond to, for example, maintaining the peace treaty with israel. >> i want to bring in nick kristof and look at the cover this week. the agents of outrage. we'll talk about that, as well. couldn't be happier to have the two of you and your expertise in this area. i want to start with what happened in libya and give us your perspective. these assailants were heavily armed. it they seemed to be organized. does it seem to you perhaps to have been timed for 9/11, was it an attack of opportunity? >> i really don't know. but it is unusual in that libya is really the most pro american country in the region. the ambassador was be loved in libya. he had helped save benghazi, the city in which he was murdered. and libya as responded pretty appropriately.
know. yesterday, on the 11th anniversary of the terrorist attacks on the united states, the u.s. embassy in cairo released a statement that read, in part, "the embassy condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of muslims. as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. they released that statement because there was an angry mob gathered outside, and that mob continued to gather as the day wore on. nearly five hours later, the state department confirmed the embassy had suffered a breach. protesters outside the embassy were reportedly there due to anger over a reported low-budget anti-muslim film made in the united states and posted on a youtube account. more on that film in a moment. by late afternoon, the compass embassy was reiterating its statement on twitter, one of the tweets read, "of course we condemn breaches of our compound. we're the ones actually living through this." a short time later, the state department confirmed the u.s. diplomatic mission in benghazi, libya, was under attack. searches for the british mo
of violence will shake the resolve of the united states of america. >> good morning. it is thursday, september 13th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, national affairs editor for "new york" magazine, john heilman, richard haass. and in washington, nbc chief foreign affairs correspondent and host of "andrea mitchell reports," andrea mitchell. >> we have so much to talk about this morning. of course breaking news overnight. >> yeah. >> we, of course, have been focused on libya. yesterday we were focused on the political scrap that was taking place while we had chaotic situations across the globe. >> i'd say it was more than a scrap. >> i think it was a terrible moment, maybe a defining moment in the campaign, of course what's going on in egypt right now. is equally troubling. and i suspect that when the streets clear, perhaps the most troubling aftereffect of this will be what has not been said by the muslim brotherhood or the leaders of egypt. this morning we'll have to get to that later because this morning more breaking news. now out of yemen. >> yep. witnesses say hundreds of demonst
that are going on. resentment over the failure of the united states to act more forcefully in syria. the contest, the intramural contest between elements of the muslim brotherhood in egypt and the more radical elements of the islamic extremists who are trying to hijack the revolution away from the moderate muslim brotherhood, which is part of the problem. there is this residual belief that there are americans still at war with islam and those who want to burn the koran. there's still this gulf of misunderstanding between what arabs actually believe the united states feels about the role of islam in the middle east and what actually is taking place. there are so many cross currents it's almost impossible to put your finger on one or two things. the bottom line however, is that america's standing in the region has deteriorated for a variety of reasons that would take a book to quantify at this point. >> marc, there's been a huge change in tone on the part of the egyptian government i would say since president obama's call to president morsi the other day. morsi comes down and calls the protesters
, was an apology according to mitt romney and put at the feet of the president of the united states by mitt romney says in part that the embassy in cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of muslims as we ken dumb efforts to offend believers of all religions. today the anniversary of september 11th americans are honoring our patriots those that serve our nation is the fitting democracy. respect is a cornerstone of american democracy and reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others. this was released by the embassy in cairo apparently without washington's approval six hours before the protests. not as an apology for the protests or explanation or response. you've been in embassies around the world, top levels of the state department in washington, first of all, do the press officers at embassies have the authority to release a statement like that if intelligence and other information indicates that they may be experiencing protests? >> they certainly do. we have one of the most
not be photographed when those coffins got back to the united states. that change in policy under george w. bush was a source of anger and controversy. it is why coffins were sometimes used in anti-iraq war protests to visually represent those real caskets of americans killed in the war that the bush administration would not allow the country to see. the bush administration banned the media from showing those dignified transfer ceremonies as the invasion of iraq started in 2003. and they kept the policy in place throughout george w. bush's time in office. as the country waged two of the longest wars in our history. it was not until the new president replaced george w. bush that the ban was rescinded. on thursday, february 26th, 2009, just five weeks after president barack obama was inaugurated, the defense department lifted the ban and one week after the ban was lifted, the following thursday, the media was allowed to cover that solemn return ceremony for the first time in a long time. and maybe it is because we did go so long as a country without seeing images like this that we are a little roc
has the judgment and character to be the president of the united states. this morning all of us were shocked to learn that chris stevens, our ambassador to libya, had been killed in an attack there, along with three other american diplomats, all murdered in what u.s. officials are now investigating as a possible terrorist attack on the anniversary of 9/11. while americans mourned, mr. romney saw a political opportunity. >> the administration was wrong to stand by a statement sympathizing with those who had breached our embassy in egypt instead of condemning their actions. in my view, a disgraceful statement on the part of our administration to apologize for american values. >> sympathizing with them all, apologizing for our values? this is rough talk and ugly stuff and president obama responded. >> there's a broader lesson to be learned here. governor romney has a tendency to shoot first and aim later and as president, one of the things i've learned is that you can't do that, that it's important for you to make sure that the statements that you make are backed up by the facts and tha
shakes the resolve of the united states of america. >> earlier today secretary of state hillary clinton stepped up her criticism of the anti-muslim film that first prompted the protests. >> to us, to me personally, this video is disgusting and reprehensib reprehensible. it appears to have a deeply cynical purpose to denigrate a great religion and to provoke rage. >> joining me now live from cairo, nbc's similar maceda. give us the best description of how things are right now. >> reporter: well, ironically benghazi remained calm today. if you look at it, perhaps the libyan government's quick crackdown there on those alleged perpetrators. four individuals were arrested today. there's a manhunt going on that might have had a tamping-down effort. even there in benghazi, the u.s. government is taking no chances. we understand that all u.s. personnel has now been or have been evacuated to tripoli and only emergency staff are kept at the embassy here. here in cairo it's another 24 hours of protests against that made in usa anti-islam film. overnight last night some dramatic scenes near the u.s
of the united states in some of these countries just so great, some might say anything will trigger violence against the united states or u.s. interests in the area? >> there are decades of resentment that have built up over time, be it for american support for "the dictator"shthcn the region but we can't demagogues it. there are many good allies to the united states in and across the arab world. the administration is trying to ensure it strengthening the allies nin the days ahead, and that's the right approach. >> we'll continue to talk about this in the days to come. >>> up next, with 50 days to go until the election, is team romney relaunching? there's new details about internal dissent within the romney camp over his messages. rahm emanuel takes legal action to end the teachers strike that he calls a strike of joe. congressman keith ellison the first muslim elected to the house talks to us live to talk about the deadly attacks in libya. you can find us @tamronhall and @newsnation. by bright eyes you're not just looking for a house. you're looking for a place for your life to happen. but
mohammed as blas fa mouse. we don't know if this person is base ed based in the united states and that's to whom the video is attributed as why the attacks were made on american properties abroad. we don't know if there were more complex reasons. this is not the first time that perceived criticism of islam has been reacted to violently in the muslim world. a florida pastor promoted what he was calling "burn a koran day." that spurred days of protests in afghanistan killing nine people there. in 2005 it was cartoons depict depicting the prophet mohammed. and u.s. service members accidentally burned copies of the koran in order to dispose of them. it sparked riots throughout afghanistan killing 30 people overall. but again, breaking news at this hour. a day of violent protests in libya and egypt. the american consulate and the american embassy in egypt. and reports still unconfirmed at this time that one american may have been killed at that consulate attack. this is an evolving story. we're still trying to get confirmation, but we'll update you as we learn more. that's tonight's breakin
. and may god bless these united states of america. >>> we begin this afternoon with the president who just an hour ago was at andrews air force base in maryland as the americans killed in libya were returned home. president, vice president, secretary of state and defense secretary were there to receive the bodies of ambassador christopher stevens, sean smith, tyrone woods and glen doherty, all killed tuesday at the american consulate in benghazi. the secretary of state began by offering these words of tribute. >> so we will wipe away our tears, stiffen our spines, and phase the future undaunted. and we will do it together, protecting and helping one another, just like sean, tyrone, glen, and chris always did. >> in addition to the presence of their families and the most senior members of government, this was also an opportunity for friends and colleagues to pay their respects. dozens of of state department workers boarded buses in washington to attend the ceremony. the president said those that gave their lives represented the very best of american leadership. >> the united states of ameri
american influence, and the reality is that the united states has declining influence in the region. that's in many ways natural in part because these are blossoming democracies that want to claim their own political future. but it's -- the anti-americanism is in part because they don't understand why the united states can't prevent the kind of film that was released. they don't fully understand what freedom of the press means, and that we have limited recourse. so this is a problem. this may not be the last incident. there are tensions -- in the same way, you know, muslims don't understand why we can't do anything, americans assume bh there's a protest like this, this means that all muslims are against the united states. i don't think that's true. they value our freedoms and the kind of lifestyle we lead, even if they don't want to be influenced heavily by the united states. >> you talk about the declining influence of the united states. at the beginning of his term president obama made a big show of reaching out to the muslim world with his speech in cairo in 2009. can you assess the ev
, that the united states government had absolutely nothing to do with this video. to us, to me personally, this video is disgusting and reprehensible. it appears to have a deeply cynical purpose, to denigrate a great religion and to provoke rage. >> the film was initially to have thought to have provoked the attack on benghazi, libya, tuesday. ambassador chris stevens, former navy s.e.a.l.s chris woods and glen doherty were killed in that attack along with sean smith. not long after the attack reports surfaced that it might have been the premeditated work of a radical islamic group retaliating for an american drone strike which had killed an al qaeda command leader. libyan officials said they had taken four men into custody in connection with the attack. they also said they thought the attack was meant to drive a wedge between americans and libyans. this may be true. but even with all that has happened in libya, the bigger challenge for the obama administration may be with what's taking place in egypt. where even before the attack on the u.s. consulate in libya protestors stormed the emba
cannot afford a break between the united states and egypt when it comes too maintaining that peace treat treaty. >> jacques on the point about the government and egypt being responsive to the mood of the street, we're talking about how sort of reluctant morsi has been to issue a really sort of clear denuns yags of what happened and how to sort of discourage the protests. i want to put this picture on the screen. this is in libya. there was a young man who held up a sign after the attacks that said, sorry, people of america, this is not the behavior of our islam and prophet. there's an attitude on the street in libya. on you prevalent is that attitude in the muslim world and why you don't hear more it? >> it's prevalent but there's complete chaos and confusion there. we had the director of intelligence who referred to the muslim brotherhood in egypt as largely secular. we use these distinctions, and i quite honest don't think we as americans have a very, very accurate understanding of what these parties think about when they think the united states. it's becoming very, very clear that the
. >> today we mourn four more americans who represent the very best of the united states of america. we will not waiver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act and make no mistake, justice will be done. >> the friendship between our countries born out of shared struggle will not be another casualty of this attack. a free and stable libya is still in america's interest and security. and we will not turn our back on that. >> meanwhile, mitt romney condemned the loss of american lives but he also seized on the attacks even before daybreak slamming the administration's response in what became a fierce back and forth between the two campaigns. romney then doubled down this morning. >> i spoke out when the key fact that i referred to was known which was that the embassy of the united states issued what appeared to be an apology for american principles. that was a mistake. and i believe that when a mistake is made of that significance you speak out. >> we start our coverage right now with nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel in cairo, egypt. >> reporte
, that the first response to the united states must be outrage at the breach of the sovereignty of our nation. and apology for america's values is never the right course. >> democrats even some republicans say mitt romney jumped the gun. so how hard is to manage presidential politics and foreign policy? my guest this afternoon, general wesley clark, former nato commander. also chairman and ceo of wesley k. clark and associates. that is a segment for another day, wesley k. clark and associates. also ran for president in 2004 as a democrat. good afternoon to you, sir. thanks for being here with us. mitt romney has come under fire for his comments in the wake of what's happening in the middle east. what are the challenges, what are the difficulties of taking on an incumbent war time president? >> well, first of all, you don't know what he knows. he has the whole apparatus of the u.s. government feeding him information and you're somewheres else and you're being handled by aides. so you don't have a good -- the smart thing to do is get your facts together before you speak. don't pop off. don't ju
governor romney for the first time gets on the same stage as the president of the united states, people can make a direct comparison about them and their visions for the future and wednesday night is the restart of the campaign and i think you'll start to see the numbers move back in the other direction. >> how do you restart the campaign, governor, at the last moment where you can reach tens of millions of people. why isn't it too late to believe that the presidential debates, after you announce your running mate, after you have a convention, that you can restart with the presidential debates? >> absolutely. you're going to have tens of millions of people for the very first time, david, really tuning in and paying attention to this race. and also, for the first time you're going to have them be able to make a direct side-by-side comparison. remember, the end of the day, campaigns are about the candidates. they're going to be able to see these two candidates next to each other, debating each other and governor romney, i know is going to do a great job wednesday night of laying out his visio
to be run by strong states, auth thorn taryn leaders often friendly to united states, now cripplized by weak states where the governments are unable or unwilling to do what they're meant to do, one of which is to protect foreign missions. you gangs, terrorists, weak police and military forces. so this is a pattern that we could see going on. we don't know if this was triggered by the movie, by 9/11 or if they had something like this in the works. >> president obama said yesterday egypt is not an enemy nor an ally. what's that mean? >> it's welcome to the 21st century. whether it's china, russia, egypt, most of these countries don't squarely fit -- on tuesday they may work with some issue and be responsible, and on thursday work against us and be totally irresponsible. increasingly we have relationships that are hard to categorize. >> a lot of people asking the question over the last 24 hours or so where was the security at places like the consulate in benghazi. as a man who spent a lot of time in these places around the world, what would the security look like at a suchlt s. consulate in ben
the bus. now we've seen a very different timeline from israel and the united states from netanyahu. netanyahu says within months iran will have gone beyond the point of no return. american intelligence believes there's more time. where do we stand now with israel and is mitt romney -- >> we stand -- >> that the president has thrown israel under the bus? >> well, first of all, the term throwing israel under the bus is really a remarkable -- you know, it's an unbelievably cynical explosivetive term that is also a lie. it is a fundamental lie. and mitt romney ought to be ashamed of himself for continuing to say it when he knows that prime minister netanyahu and defense minister ehud barak have both said this administration has the strongest security and military cooperation with israel it has ever had. ever. and the president has taken steps to put america in a position to deal with iran with whatever eventuality may be necessary, and i mean whatever eventuality may be necessary. the president made that crystal clear in his speech at the united nations. and, yesterday, prime minister
their actions. it's never too early for the united states government to condemn attacks on americans and to defend our values. i think it's a terrible course for america to stand in apology for our values, that instead when our grounds are being attacked and being breached, that the first response to the united states must be outraged for the sovereignty of our nation. >> trying to get it straight about this, that was the most terrible statement i've heard in a long time. he never sympathized with the mobs. he certainly never sympathized with someone taking the lives of americans and someone serving our government. his people -- not even his people, regular career service people in cairo without checking with washington simply put out a statement. they said that they could share that they are not part of this absolutely outrageous disrespect. >> i think -- i don't know what mark thinks, but that was to me a little painful and infuriating to watch. because i think mitt romney -- i'm going to give him enough credit for knowing that the president in this context didn't apologize for any
shakes the resolve of the united states of america. >> and the president's on the case, he sent two u.s. warships to the libyan coast. he sent marines into tripoli, and attorney general eric holder said that he has opened up an investigation. >> as we watch the world today, it seems that we're at the mercy of events and -- a strong america depends on a strong military. this president has done something i find very hard to understand. >> joe kleine, thank you because you've got a big picture and look at this, who is romney talking about our ability to confront these local situations where a group of militants in a place like benghazi decide to go after the american embassy. >> what is being able to fight two big land wars have to do with that? >> once again the guy doesn't know what he's talking about or he's 25 years out of date. the two-war strategy was a product of the cold war when we had to have the ability to fight the russians on the planes of the earth and. >> he still thinks that the soviet union exists and is the greatest threat we have out there. it's really remarkable that
of violence shakes the resolve of the united states of america. >> and the president is on the case and sent two u.s. warships to the libyan coast and marines into tripoli and the fbi has opened an investigation into the attack that killed those four americans. contrast that with what mitt romney did today, campaigning in virginia. let's listen to him. >> as we watch the world today, sometimes it seems that we're at the mercy of events instead of shaping events and a strong america is to shape events and a strong america, by the way, depends on a strong military. this president has done something i find very hard to understand. ever since fdr, we've had the capacity to be engaged in two conflicts at once and he's saying, no, we're going to cut that back to only one conflict. >> joe klein, thank you. because you have a big picture look of this. what is mitt romney talking about that is relevant to aur our ability to deal with the group of militants in a place like benghazi that go against the embassy or going against the embassy and ambassadors of the embassy itself in care iro, be egypt. >>
in a setting like that. >> the white house responds. >> when you're president of the united states, you are president of all the people. not just the people who voted for you. >>> do americans feel better off than they were four years ago? an exclusive first look at our new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll with chuck todd. bob woodward on the price of politics. his book examining the obama presidency. and the state of the campaign. and a major military change in afghanistan. the u.s. suspends joint operations with afghan troops after more deadly insider attacks on our forces. >>> and will and kate, win a big victory against that photographer in a frens french court today. how do you stop the internet? good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. the romney campaign is struggling today to deal with words from the candidate himself. statements made at a private fund-raiser in boca raton, florida, last may, secretly videotaped without the governor's knowledge. >> and governor romney also joked at that fund-raiser about the fact that his father was born in mexico, but not necessaril
be about a year and that the united states and israel and the world community would know if and when iran makes that turn. another thing they agree on, it can't be just a policy of containing iran, allowing them to go nuclear, but keeping them contained much like the old cold war as the west did with the soviet union. but prime minister netanyahu wants a more forthright stance publicly from the united states in terms of that red line. setting forth, delineating a clear deadline, clear red line of how far iran can or cannot go in developing those nuclear weapons. here's a little bit more of what he told david gregory. >> is israel closer to taking action into its own hands? >> we always reserve the right to act. but i think that if we are able to coordinate together a common position, we increase the chances that neither one of us will have to act. >> he wants more coordination with the united states in taking a stronger stand against iran. meanwhile ambassador rice says iran is growing more isolated under the policies that are now in place absent any military action. >> iran is more isola
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